4th Meeting, 14th session of the Forum on Minority Issues. Victoria Donda: Many situations of injustice were denounced in these intense two days of debate and proposals. I will not list them. We took note of the situations that were reported and of many of the proposals that the participants were expressing. We also took note of the considerations of the experts. Some of the things we wanted to say in closing this forum are, firstly, that we are convinced that discrimination and racism are not, as we said at the beginning of this forum, a problem of minorities and majorities, but of inequality in the access to and exercise of power. We believe that this is fundamental, because otherwise we can understand that discrimination and racism are either individual behaviours or almost anecdotal behaviours in the life and history of people. And the truth is that both behaviours, which are violent behaviours and which lead to the unhappiness for our people and societies, are behaviours carried out by minorities that hold power. Racism and discrimination are nothing but a form of violence. Only this violence can be exercised from power and, therefore, the challenge for us is working out how to democratise this power. For us, an important part of thinking about this is to rethink ourselves, to modify these paradigms, to talk, not about multiculturalism but about interculturalism. It is to speak from an intersectoral perspective, it is to speak from a gender perspective. Why do we say intersectoral and gender perspective are necessary to change the paradigms in which we live these situations of violence in different parts of the world? If we don't